How to Adjust Camber?
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aWristo
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: How to Adjust Camber? Reply with quote

Not sure if this is where to post this..

How do I adjust camber?

I've just lowered the car a fair bit and as a result the tyres are riding on the inside corners.

I don't know how long they'll last but I wouldn't suspect very long..

Any suggestion?

Cheers,

Ben.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine last about 5000kms as i got 20's....... got them lasting about 10000kms when i got an alignment to get rid of all the toe man. thats what eats the inside tyres
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get it done by a shop mate...you'll chew your tyres in no time if you try and set it up by eye (ask me how I know this Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

workshops with wheel alingment machines... lolz
the acctual adjustments are really simple, but without an accurate machine there is no point, as jay said thre is a good chance its still gonna chew if you do it yourself
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh you beauty, thanks for that.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are camber adjustment bolts front and back that will give you up to about 4 degrees of play here.

Just be aware that the more camber you wind it the more camber wear you're going to get on your tyres - in other words the inner tread is going to get chewed big time.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ does depend on ride height the range you get. im not that low IMO, but probably about 3" lower than stock, around 100mm from stock bodywork, lower to exhaust.

i have a 160 not 147 but same sorta deal, i have -2.1 camber or so all round, and cant get any less due to my ride height. obviously they could max it the other way, and i know a lot of US guys running around -4 or so and some even up to -7 on stock adjustment, but i think that took some tricks of the trade. So you will probably have at least -2 basically at your height.

camber isnt all bad though its the toe that eats tyres. Toe is the in or out movement of the tyre so obviously if you are heading straight and your tyres are slightly turned outward or inward that kills tyres. At a certain point of camber the wheel gets pulled not only in at the top but also in at the front so it toes in. i think on our cars they have a fair bit of toe adjustment though to get rid of a lot of it (unlike some other vehicles where you need to get adjustable toe arms to get neutral toe at ac certain camber)

having negative camber anywhere up to about -3/-4 or so isnt really going to chew your tyres any more provided toe is on spec. they will certainly wear out moreso on the inner edge, but that isnt to say they wore out any faster than if they had been wearing all over.

of course, at a point this will cease to be correct and be worse for some tyres than others because the tyre is designed to have a fairly even distribution of load and wear and you are putting it on like 1/4 of the width thus focussing the wear very heavily.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat negative camber is better Razz

isnt it ?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah if you drive a track car

camber wear is fk all in comparrison to bad toe wear ahah

think about if when your driving down the road like this

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thats gonna do a shitload more damage to the tyres than leaning onto the inside edge
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

once you wear it down, until its even the wear is the same ... until that point you are wearing the insides pretty fast .... Bawling
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so getting bigger rims wont reduce the camber u get when u lower aristos? thinking going from 18s to 19s might make abit since i dont have to lower it as much???
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigger wheels = lower more Razz

but to answer you question, the wheel size has nothing to do with it but if you are going up in wheel size and not lowering to compensate, just trying to make the arches look fuller, then in theory yes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got mad inner tyre wear after lowering and not getting an alignment. Naughty me. Tyres were absolutely smooth, glad I checked em before I got pulled over.
Toe was waaaaay out of spec by up to 5 degrees Suprised , camber is about -2.5 on front and -2 on rear (rear is a few mm higher cause I cbf adjusting coils until all other shit goes in). Don't seem to be wearing excessively yet but time will tell. The alignment I got at City Discount was cheap, but it isn't great though, has a 100kph shudder now which is giving me the absolute shits.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="ant_jzs160]


having negative camber anywhere up to about -3/-4 or so isnt really going to chew your tyres any more provided toe is on spec. they will certainly wear out moreso on the inner edge, but that isnt to say they wore out any faster than if they had been wearing all over.

of course, at a point this will cease to be correct and be worse for some tyres than others because the tyre is designed to have a fairly even distribution of load and wear and you are putting it on like 1/4 of the width thus focussing the wear very heavily.[/quote]

Any tyre over lets say 19" diameter, and 10" Width with an offset below +20 will eat a nasty little camber/toe circle right round your tyres.
Not pretty... Sad
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ant_jzs160
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha VIP isnt cheap eh man Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, nah. Its the price we pay to be baller.... its the price we pay..... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If ur gonna have it that low make sure u constantly check tyre wear or this will happen......were my 20's. Wet weather and poor maintenance (tyre checking) and roundabout thats the rear , front similar. thank god no other damage http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6063/ristofone001.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crikey! what was that rim made out of, plastic?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If my works cracked like that id be sending em back to the factory, and im sure they would give me a refund...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't have much camber on my old car, and it still did this every 15,000km


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