i guess id jsut try fit some of those pioneer subs that are slimline, they look resonably light and they seem to put out a good bass note aswell and being that there not to high powered the factory setup would probably run them fine.
From experience one dosen't feel much seat of the pants difference until you got up around 8-10% weight loss, which in an aristo is up around 150kg mark....unless you are pretty serious then this is going to be hard to acheive.....
If however you are serious then away goes ....
bonnet for fibreglass
sub
purifier
stereo
speakers in all the doors
all the climate control stuff
replace the front seats with fibreglass jobs
keep the stock wheels and tyres as aftermarket wheels and larger tyres are often heavier than the factory package...
Are they 4 wheel steer? not too sure...but if they are then all that can go and be replaced....
I will be leaving almost everything in as I love the luxury, tend to agree if you want a light car try a R32 GTST or 180SX as they are pretty light.
1. Air pur
2. Spare Wheel
3. Everything in the boot.
4. Sub.
5. remove alot of the dedaing behind the rear seat.
There the first things id do. Then when you hit the drags take the back seat out.
If you so mmmmm
Exactly what i'll be doing for the drags as not hard to put it ll back in once its done minus air puri ofcourse
Regards to subs there's no other way to go as you could go 8'-10' subs but you'll be still left with a gaping big hole where the OEM used to reside, i just went and bought a VENOM 12' and they do the job no worries as this thread should answer some q's in regards.
if people are interested in shaving their drag strip time small things like these do help. maybe not on the road but u shouldnt be racing on the road anyway.
Joined: 10 May 2007 Posts: 123 Location: Adelaide, SA
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:54 am Post subject:
Dazwaaah wrote:
lol i find it funny people trying to loose weight from heavy cars... i can understand how they are thinking...
if you want to go fast, put a big hp engine in a small car... end of story... aristo is the perfect balance IMO
wouldnt want to change it...
last thing i would want is a noisey aristo cabin because ive saved 5kgs from the sound deadening...
Exactly!
An Aristo is a luxury 4 door sedan. I dont know why people would buy one if they wanted to go fast. Sure its got bang for buck and is pretty quick in stock form, for what it is.
But like others have said, if you want to go fast, buy a sports car...
Im not sure about other people, but I got mine to just drive around and enjoy the comfort. Why the hell you would take things like sound deadening, etc. out of an Aristo has got me.... :S
ps.
I agree on the fact that you'd have to take quite a bit out to make any difference. Its a decent sized engine, so your going to have to take out a decent amount of weight to notice anything.
Sure if its a KE70 with a 4ag pushing it along, then things such as tyres, sound deadening, and aircon WILL make a difference as a small engine needs all the weight saved as it can.
lol i find it funny people trying to loose weight from heavy cars... i can understand how they are thinking...
if you want to go fast, put a big hp engine in a small car... end of story... aristo is the perfect balance IMO
wouldnt want to change it...
last thing i would want is a noisey aristo cabin because ive saved 5kgs from the sound deadening...
Exactly!
An Aristo is a luxury 4 door sedan. I dont know why people would buy one if they wanted to go fast. Sure its got bang for buck and is pretty quick in stock form, for what it is.
But like others have said, if you want to go fast, buy a sports car...
Im not sure about other people, but I got mine to just drive around and enjoy the comfort. Why the hell you would take things like sound deadening, etc. out of an Aristo has got me.... :S
ps.
I agree on the fact that you'd have to take quite a bit out to make any difference. Its a decent sized engine, so your going to have to take out a decent amount of weight to notice anything.
Sure if its a KE70 with a 4ag pushing it along, then things such as tyres, sound deadening, and aircon WILL make a difference as a small engine needs all the weight saved as it can.
What if you're making it a drift car? I want it loud, rough and as light/stiff as possible, this will require all luxuries out. Nothing will be left. I'm a murderer
What if you're making it a drift car? I want it loud, rough and as light/stiff as possible, this will require all luxuries out. Nothing will be left. I'm a murderer
Fair bit of weight in all the sound deadening they put in these cars, you'll find most of the floor & firewall layered in this thick matting - give that the chop
What if you're making it a drift car? I want it loud, rough and as light/stiff as possible, this will require all luxuries out. Nothing will be left. I'm a murderer
Fair bit of weight in all the sound deadening they put in these cars, you'll find most of the floor & firewall layered in this thick matting - give that the chop
I see. Definately the way to go. Have you heard it without all the deadening? I'd be interested to know how loud it is..
Manual - Show me an Aristo, looking schmick, ripping it up in Melbourne? Let alone Australia? The answer is nooooooo.
To be honest there's next to sweet FA sound deadening as have seen a few written off Aristos and one stripped to pieces as the most weight i could see was the wiring looms along with all the ridiculous amount of control boxes for sunroof / cruise control etc,etc. The looms to the rear in particular looked like it went for about 5kms and weighed 50kgs easy.
Drift car eeewww such a waste as you'll be bashing balljoints in no time
Backseats piss easy to remove 30kgs there.
Air puri and all associated crap about 10kgs max.
Rear boot spare wheel / all boot carpet lining and amp / stacker (if you've got it) another 30kgs.
Hate to say she'll be a heavy drift car regardless on no matter what you take out.
As id be look to other alternatives then stripping the car down as id be looking for more grunt _________________
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 4010 Location: Perth, WA
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject:
I'm with Jamie hey...
All in all, even when you strip the luxury stuffs out.. the chassis has an ass load of stiffening. LOTS of metal. Behind the dash is like a 50kg steel bar running the width of the car. Behind the rear seats and on top of the rear struts is more seriously large amounts of metal.
Unless you want to strip it out and start oxy cutting into all the metal supports that stiffen the car, it's going to be heavy to move around regardless of how much seat/carpet you pull out. _________________
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Thanks Russ and believe you me you'll require all that stiffening !
As testamnet to the build quality of these cars as a few have been written and pranged recently & thankfully no-one has been killed or seriously injured thus far in regards to all the metal bracing dotted around the chassis.
Im one for reducing weight in cars like getting rid of unnecessary objects ie: 'air puri' and thats about it
Seriously dont doubt these can be drifted but such a waste of a effort IMO unless your Japanese as they're the KINGS of quirkiness _________________
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The Aristo Spare Parts Man
Aristoman - I see, I figured there'd be a heap considering it is a luxury car and all.. There'd certainly be a way to shorten that loom.. No idea how it'd be done though LOL. It's gotta be a drift car man.. Only reason I'm buying that. That and it's gotta tow a hachi. Already had the idea of removing all of what you said. Just confirmed weights for me, thanks mate! I know it's going to be heavy, but anything I can do to make it lighter I will. fiberglass/carbon whereever it'll go basically. Not gonna leave me with money to live! Love it!
Aristo - Shit I really need real names for you guys lol... I do a bit of street stuff in the 180, but I wouldn't do anything in the risto, too big and dangerous.. How much power have you got? Chuck some 25's on there!!! lol. Whats the plan for mods? Drift worthy sounds like a good coilover setup + diff? Maybe a little more power etc.?
Rusty - Stiffening works for me! Less roll when i'm attempting to enter a corner at 150 sideways lol..
haha thommo, going for hardest possible coils I can get! I care not about any of that smooth ride rubbish. The 180 is already heaps stiff and I love it!
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1399 Location: Kelmscott
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:43 am Post subject:
Hey benny - you have considered the fact it has a pedal handbrake?? so no reefing on the hand brake to assist angles ...
i am not saying it can't be a drift car - i have seen vids of them drifting ... but there are much better platforms, and cars that are still unique to choose from ...
in saying that - you can move the hand brake and the like - but yeah ... maybe something you wanna do, but not something i wanna do ...
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