Alloy Radiator Options?
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sbyder
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Alloy Radiator Options? Reply with quote

My radiator is about to give up on me. Had it flushed a while ago and it was looking pretty bad. The top tank is also ready to crack. Since summer is about to hit and ive recently come across a heating issue, im starting to look for a replacement item.

Obviously i can get a supra top tank and bottom tank thrown on for around $300 (already got a quote) but id rather get something with a little better cooling. Having a 30mm'ish core really isnt enough.

So far ive found the following:

PWR, PWR0837 - $840

Extremely nice design and proven to work well, though $840 is a little out of my price range.

Predator intercooler and Radiator kit - $1300 Nervous

ASI (ebay cheapy), 52mm specifically designed for the JZA80 supra - $480


ASI (ebay cheapy), 52mm custom made radiator (dimensions look like it will fit)- $250


Has anyone used any of the above and can comment on their quality, or have a better choice/price for me? Obviously the last is the cheapest, but the quality and fitment might yet to be seen. Next week i will be running around town looking for custom radiator prices.

I have seen Dazwaaah's race radiator's set-up, and for the price on shipping, id be better off getting one locally made.

cheers!
Ben
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm.... no responses.

Ohh well. Might make some phone calls.

Ben
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no constructive response to give, but I didn't want you to feel unloved sbyder Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey constructive or not, i'll still read it Smile

Called ARE cooling, they want $1000, i laughed and hung up.
Called some other brisbane alloy radiator joints, they recon $750-$900 for a custom jobby.
Called PWR and they are $840 for the supra radiator, which is better than i thought.
Still waiting on email responses from 5 guys, inluding 3 ebay sellers.

Just so everyone knows, my heating issues are:

Drive in the cold, no problems.
Drive in the heat of the day, temp gets up to 95 for a few minutes, then rises quickly to 110 at which point i immediately pull over and get pissed off before putting around 400ml of water in the radaitor.

Why i think its a clogged radaitor:
i)No water leaks from anywhere.
ii)only gets hot when its a hot day
iii)the overflow bottle has signs of overflowing when it overheats, ie: theres coolant marks flowing down the sides but evaporates before i lift the bonnet.
iv)if i switch the car off when its at 110-115 degrees there is no water pressure noises which you would hear if the coolant was leaking somewhere.
v)new thermostat and waterpump and 90% of the coolant pipes around the motor.

Of course Im getting a pressure test done tomorrow just to be sure and before i spend any money but all fingers are pointing to a clogged radiator getting hot, then spewing coolant out the overflow bottle.

Cheers all
Ben
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heya ben...

its really up to you which way you go... just be very careful, as they really do need to be specifically made up to match the shape... i think my core is around 40mm... but u must remember that with the thicker core, it pushes everything closer to the serpentine belt, as you've seen in my thread, my one had to be adjusted to fit, one side you have the standard cooler piping, (im pretty sure u run fmic anyway) and the other side you have the hydrollic fan lines...

there is also the fact of the oil cooler for the tranny.... i remember you're running an aftermarket ATF cooler anyway, but remember if u just run the aftermarket by itself... you will need airflow for it to be effective, which is why i got my oil cooler built into the new one...

supra's dont run the hydrollic fan so they dont have to be tapered in... but hang on.. i think you're running thermo's arent you?

so after all that... it doesnt matter hahahahhahahahahahahahah

but i love my radiator, no problems with heat, as it has never gone above the 3rd dash on the temp guage.. (no the guage isnt broken)

a new alloy rad, with no debree stuck inbetween the air con condenser and rad, with new toyota long life coolant works a fkn treat!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, ive already converted to twin thermos and a supra water pump Very Happy
Im also running a tranny cooler seperately because eventually i knew id convert to a manual style alloy radaitor. It has plently of air flow thanks to my front bar and some piping.



My only issue is to find a radiator that has the tapered or cut-outs on the bottom so it fits. The radiator and fan mounts can be easily made up with a few brackets. Another thing is to also find one thats not too wide as it has to fit between the rails.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

u want me to pop outside and measure mine ben???
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah, should be ok mate thanks very much.

Ive still got the stocka to go by.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine stays cool as in Brissy weather, ive recently had a new top tank fitted & had the core unblocked..... so dont reckon i'll need to touch cooling again for a while.

If you need a radiator to send off, ive got a stocker with a fucked header tank you can have.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mate that would be unreal!
Check your PM Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

after searching around the PWR unit seems to be the most beneficial in relation to fitment, flow capacity and looks

I really cant see why the supra designed ebay cheapy is soo much more expensive than the other ebay model shown. I cant see an extra $230 worth of "extras" on the supra model.

I have a mate who's trying to get a special mates rate price on the PWR. If i can get it for $600 or less, i'll grab it, otherwise the ebay $250 unit will be my choice, once i get confirmations on dimensions, grrr, stupid ebay sellers not responding to emails Rant

Ill keep you all updated.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when im back in Brizzy i will call PWR as i get a trade price I called up about these ahile ago i think my price was around $660.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone has one of those ASI ones for the jza80 fs on the supra forums atm, seems he wants $400 for it: http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=33336

That tranny cooler setup on yours is sweet btw, think I will do something similar on mine once I have a FMIC in.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when do you get back? please say tomorrow, lol
I need mine before the end of next week Sad

for $660 we should all buy one Very Happy

PS- The radiator on the supra forums is not for sale anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugger bugger bugger!

PWR have none in stock and they wont make one until the 30th Sad

Looks like i'll have to go ebay unless i can find a better option before the end of the week.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well after searching high and low ive come up with one solution.... get one from interstate and have it sent up. Thanks to Dazwaaah for leaving his old radiator at Race Radiators Razz they can make me one up similar to yours for the same price. I need it before the end of next week so i dont mind paying that same even though mine doesnt require a auto cooler or mounting tabs (i got thermos).


Fingers crossed i'll see it before thursday next week!

Thanks again Dazwaaah, you're a legend, and you didnt even know it! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: alloy rad Reply with quote

hey guys, i just bought one of those cheap asi ones, they have three or four different ones that say they are just for universal custom fit. so i just picked the one that had the outlets and dimentions closest to our standard ones, also got one 16inch thermo to bolt onto it and the same oil cooler as you guys showed in the pics above for my trany, the quality of the rad is pretty good really and it arrived within a week. gunna start fitting it tonight or tomorrow, i`ll let you`s know how it all go`s.

hey , once i`ve taken the hydrolic fan and hoses out do i just leave the pump where it is acting as an idler pully, so that my belt is the right tension or will the pump seize running with no oil in it???
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey arist-oh...

i would assume that you disconnect the line that runs to the pump, but undoing the nut... theres a hole through the nut, so im thinking that once you take the line out, the bolt will tighten all the way down...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

let us know how it goes mate. It'll be very interesting to know.

I would have saved the extra 3-400 and bought one, but im just not confident the ebay one will fit perfectly.

The guys at race radiators might not even be able to make me one quick enough, so i might have to turn to the ASI.

Nervous
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey ben... i left the guys my stock one so they do have the design to go off....
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