End of the super cheap Aristo?
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Import Monster
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: End of the super cheap Aristo? Reply with quote

Well with exchange rates having died in the arse in the wake of a worldwide shakeup (which is long overdue mind you), the cost of importing an Aristo has risen significantly. From 107yen to the dollar a few weeks ago to 89yen to the dollar today. I say be thankful if you've bought a car in the last couple of months because I don't know if the currency is going to bounce back Sad
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SS DIS
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes this is true.
also when i was in japan there are alot more people from the UK looking at them than normal.

When i was there a stock clean grade 4 1995 silver reached over 850,000 Yen + FOB costs so add another 80 -100,000 Yen.

The exchange rate will get better as china is looking at sending another test bomb into the japanes sea.
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Slain
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glad i bought mine when it was 110yen Smile
saved a bit of money woohoo!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was happy at 100Yen to the dollar ... when i bought my supra it was about 75 yen to the dollar - and that was ALOT more expensive car!!
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xscape
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its only good news to us current aristo owners.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exchange rate was 95 when I got mine, and I got the car for a bargain, and I didn't pay high importing costs thanks to a prominent importing business (looks in ARON's direction) - so I won Smile
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keiser soze
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hate the US housing market so much right now Sad
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Import Monster
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ridiculous thing is that the fvckers are all shitting themselves, pulling out of Aussie $$ and putting it into USD! What a joke, it's the USD that's causing the problem in the first place.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xscape wrote:
its only good news to us current aristo owners.


Why do you say that?

Sure it might reduce the number of cars coming in, therefore stopping the aristo from becoming the equivalent of an R33 in the import market (i.e. flooded and common as) but won't it also increase the costs of importing parts (which is not a good thing for current owners)?
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xscape
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im more concerned about our cars holding their value for at least a few years..

one of the major factors for me when choosing a car is resale value - which is why i chose an aristo in black, with leather, etc.. i.e. one which is more attractive to the future buyers.. however it looks like they will go the way of the soarer and be available for 7 grand locally in no time.

i sold my two prior cars for slightly more than i paid for them, and owned each for about 2 years. i hoped to do the same with the aristo but it aint gonna happen.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

Given that most of the aristos are really not that expensive ie under 8-10k Aud the difference is annoying but only really adds under $1.2k or so. Most of the cost is really getting the car over here (bloody girt by sea....thats why). I don't think the extra $500 or so it would cost now would have stopped me from getting it....but happy I got it then Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.rba.gov.au/Statistics/exchange_rates.html

yooooooooooou son of a bitch
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares about the exchange rate adding some hundreds of dollars to the the price of an Aristo when local "service providers" are bleeding people for $5000 for compliance ?

Not to mention freight, taxes, service fees etc.

The base price of the vehicle is not the real cost problem. Just like when they advise us to buy a better/dearer vehicle to start with - it is not the big part of the price tag.
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manual
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevee wrote:
Who cares about the exchange rate adding some hundreds of dollars to the the price of an Aristo when local "service providers" are bleeding people for $5000 for compliance ?

Not to mention freight, taxes, service fees etc.

The base price of the vehicle is not the real cost problem. Just like when they advise us to buy a better/dearer vehicle to start with - it is not the big part of the price tag.


In exchange rate from when i paid for my FOB value to today - the exchange rate change has meant to me a saving of $700 ... now - that to me is a big saving.... irrespective of what i have to pay going forward as the import prices are still gonna stay the same - that $700 is better off in my pocket
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Miggy
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wowee, lucky i still have my cash in japan from when the last sale fell through.
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2Jornot2J
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the yen rate and USD were in line for a "correction" however if anything ,as someone stated the parts may get more expensive for these beasts, thereby possibly even cheapening the cars. people wont buy cars they cant get parts for, and if they are at a premium depending on the budget, the car will not be bought. times this by 5 or 6 potential buyers who pass up the car the owner then thinks...hmmm drop the price. this times however many aristo owners currently selling there cars and you then get a buyers market...with no buyers. only way to escape is to get a full fruit version that is distinctive and is not a clone car. or one with mods and fully VIPd, pimped. a car like that will have an edge over a sundry specced car which makes it more appealing. that said though, Aristos are very cost effective for what they offer, if any upward changes are made on the current market, it would be justified for such a fine car. for the 12-20k bracket for a car of its nature, nothing compares, not even the far side of a dated carbon copy falcodore. i hope the price stays were they are for now as i am still in the market.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my Aristo in dec 06 from an importer for $13,000. Now when I look at similar Aristos with all the same options etc they are going for around $16,000. I think this is because of a greater awareness of them in the market and therefore greater demand. This means that the importer can charge more for the cars as more people want them.
I think this has more to do with it than just the yen conversion, as thay should be cheaper now to import as the Aussie dollar is worth more yen than it was a year ago.
Anyway that is just my two cents and wieght it how you will.
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skeez
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huh?
That doesnt make sense, the importer really shouldnt have a say about the end price if they are doing their job properly.
If they are more popular at auction in Japan the price will go up. Simple.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yen down to 92 today.....

Geez..... Bawling
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and i got 90.1 at the bank Sad
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